There is quite a difference between an unqualified and a qualified bullshitter. A private owner is not 'qualified' therefore not LEGALLY able to KNOW a boat is dangerous even if he is told it is.
See notes on connivance of interested parties. Be assured the seller is [almost] never party to these shenanigans.
If the survey is not quite ok, maybe a weak spot in the hull or some dodgy problem which could fall under 'boat not fit for purchase' and which can be be fixed for [up to] 5% of the agreed purchase price the purchaser is obliged by contract to ask/demand that the seller fix it, but at the purchaser's expense, after which the surveyor rubber-stamps the fix and certifies the boat as "fit for purchase". The purchaser is obliged to go through with a contracted purchase without any legal or financial recourse. ... I can guarantee from observation, research and talking to others who got thus burned you'll have bought ... a pup ... a dog ... and a-pig-in-a-poke, all in one transaction. "Think Fast Buy Slow" Once the boat is yours, so are ALL the inherited problems.
The 'normal' or usual way a marine surveyor will proceed is to go over the boat in the water "as seen". His "brief" is to find anything affecting its 'fit for purpose' status which his client - YOU - can use to pull the price down!
Once the inside is done and the engine tested, the surveyor gets the yard to haul the boat out (at your expense!) so he can check the "wetted hull".
Canny purchasers might be able to use this haul-out IF THE BOAT PASSES SURVEY to steam-clean or pressure-wash the bottom, check or even replace anodes, examine blacking OR PAY THE YARD TO DO IT, thus securing maybe four years of happy boating before another haul-out. Be aware however that at law you are messing with someone else's boat and the charges come out of your pocket.
Most surveyors are separately BSS certified and will [usually] include a Safety Certificate within the cost of a full survey if that is helpful or applicable. In Pentargon's case, her BSC was due to run out April 2012 so a bonus would come with the survey (provided it passed). The survey was in mid January but BSC can be forwarded to it's expiry date. In the event it did not apply. ... Pentargon FAILED on the 4mm rule ... and was, as of that moment, legally, junk
Pentargon's survey was eventually signed off and the survey completed in May after she'd been bottomed . Ten years later I realised I had missed a trick and should not have head her bottomed but at the time I was very green about canals and canal boats.
Buying a boat from a broker is outside credit card territory. Broker Marinas have separate accounts for sales, moorings, repairs, and fettlin 'n' fuellin' so your hard-earned may have to be moved to a current account to pay the balance by cheque. To reduce pissin about, you might consider getting a banker's draft: it might speed things up? ... Or not? ...
See notes on connivance of interested parties. Be assured the seller is [almost] never party to these shenanigans.
If the survey is not quite ok, maybe a weak spot in the hull or some dodgy problem which could fall under 'boat not fit for purchase' and which can be be fixed for [up to] 5% of the agreed purchase price the purchaser is obliged by contract to ask/demand that the seller fix it, but at the purchaser's expense, after which the surveyor rubber-stamps the fix and certifies the boat as "fit for purchase". The purchaser is obliged to go through with a contracted purchase without any legal or financial recourse. ... I can guarantee from observation, research and talking to others who got thus burned you'll have bought ... a pup ... a dog ... and a-pig-in-a-poke, all in one transaction. "Think Fast Buy Slow" Once the boat is yours, so are ALL the inherited problems.
The 'normal' or usual way a marine surveyor will proceed is to go over the boat in the water "as seen". His "brief" is to find anything affecting its 'fit for purpose' status which his client - YOU - can use to pull the price down!
Once the inside is done and the engine tested, the surveyor gets the yard to haul the boat out (at your expense!) so he can check the "wetted hull".
Canny purchasers might be able to use this haul-out IF THE BOAT PASSES SURVEY to steam-clean or pressure-wash the bottom, check or even replace anodes, examine blacking OR PAY THE YARD TO DO IT, thus securing maybe four years of happy boating before another haul-out. Be aware however that at law you are messing with someone else's boat and the charges come out of your pocket.
Most surveyors are separately BSS certified and will [usually] include a Safety Certificate within the cost of a full survey if that is helpful or applicable. In Pentargon's case, her BSC was due to run out April 2012 so a bonus would come with the survey (provided it passed). The survey was in mid January but BSC can be forwarded to it's expiry date. In the event it did not apply. ... Pentargon FAILED on the 4mm rule ... and was, as of that moment, legally, junk
Pentargon's survey was eventually signed off and the survey completed in May after she'd been bottomed . Ten years later I realised I had missed a trick and should not have head her bottomed but at the time I was very green about canals and canal boats.
Buying a boat from a broker is outside credit card territory. Broker Marinas have separate accounts for sales, moorings, repairs, and fettlin 'n' fuellin' so your hard-earned may have to be moved to a current account to pay the balance by cheque. To reduce pissin about, you might consider getting a banker's draft: it might speed things up? ... Or not? ...
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